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Antennas / Re: Double Bazooka antenna plans
« Last post by K3DAV on July 13, 2013, 09:57:40 PM »
I have built several Bazooka antennas in my past, and I have to honestly say that every one I built out performed the basic wire dipole it replaced.  A lot of how they perform depends on the materials used in the construction.  ie type of coax, type of wire used for the tails, and even down to the kind of solder used on the connections.  And one big mistake that many guys make when building a Bazooka is the exact measurements on each side of the feedpoint. 

Too many times, guys just do a rough measurement and one side turns out to be a few inches longer than the other.  They do the same with the tails when trimming for SWR.  This makes it impossible to get a good low SWR across the band.  You have to make the measurements exactly the same on each side of the main element and on the tail trimmings.  It is how you get the best impedance balance over the entire length.  If these aspects are paid close attention to, a Bazooka will outperform a dipole every time. And yes it is possible to get a 1.1 SWR in the band center and as low as 1.4 SWR at the band edges.  I have proven it time after time.

Another mistake is the type of coax used to make the antenna.  Using any kind of coax with a double shield or a foil lining around the center conductor, actually lowers the performance.  A Bazooka is designed to work best with leaky type coax.  The only 2 coax types that should ever be used to make a Bazooka are RG-8X and RG-8U.  Basic RG-8X (Mini) works very well on almost any HF band.  But the basic standard RG-8U coax works better.  The main reason is due to the larger diameter of the RG-8U shield wire.  The larger diameter wire provides a wider bandwidth for better SWR at the band edges.

I built a Bazooka with RG-8X for a friend to use on 60 meters.  I cut it to the center frequency of the 5 channel spectrum.  The SWR does not go above 1.2 at the edges and a 1.1 in the middle.  He has had great contacts around the country and into Europe and Asia with it.  Build the the right way and they will work the right way.


I have an article on my website that explains the details a lot better than I could do here.  Anyone wishing to read my article can CLICK HERE
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General discussion (QSO) / Re: CB radio vs. amateur radio - what are your thoughts?
« Last post by K3DAV on July 13, 2013, 09:33:01 PM »
Hi Tom.  I watched your VR and for the most part, I think most of us agree with you.  I don't really care how CB'ers abuse their service as long as they keep it within their band.

But I think that what many of us older operators feel is disappointment in what CB has become.  I am old enough to remember when CB radio was fun.  It was a family oriented service where people could meet new friends, get together at the old coffee breaks, and jamborees, we used to be proud of our good sounding radios,  you rarely heard people cussing or getting into deep down and out arguments......  It was just a great band and well run.

Then the truckers strike happened in the 1970's to protest the oil embargo on the USA and the raising prices of deisel fuel.  Truckers went to the local department stores and bought a CB but never sent for the license.  Then TV shows and movies started glamourizing the illegal use of CB... before you knew it, the band was so overcrowded with absolute abusers.  The FCC lost any control they had on the band and just gave up on it.

I used to love CB.  I made a lot of long term friends on CB.  But 10 years ago, I got my ham license to get away from what CB has become.  The part that scares me sometimes, is that I am starting to hear the CB attitude on the 2M and 440 bands as the CB kids are getting their Tech class.  They are bringing the CB lingo with them and even some of the bad attitude.  I hear cursing  and disregard for many of the ham rules and protocols.  Now I have moved to mostly HF bands where there is still some civility.

I still have a few friends on CB that I go and talk to.  There is one channel where 2 older guys just sit and BS all night.  I enjoy listening to them sometimes.  They have been doing this for many years.  It's like a ritual to them.  They do however use 26.885MHz which is a few channels below the CB ch 1, but I actually don't care that they use an illegal channel.  They are just having innocent fun every night.  The ones who bother me are the dirty linear operators who scatter their signal across 10 channels at the same time.  Or the 2 truckers traveling and every other word is the "F" word in one of it's many forms.

CB has lost a lot of those invaders from the 1970's now, but on good condition days, the anarchy of who can walk on who is overwhelming.  I just miss the good ole days when CB was fun for the whole family.

David - K3DAV
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General discussion (QSO) / Re: How do I hookup rig and computer to run PSK31 ?
« Last post by W5LZ on July 13, 2013, 04:51:57 PM »
If your laptop has a sound card then just download a suitable PSK/RTTY program.  Interface the sound card's input to the radio's audio output, and the sound card's output to the mic input of the radio.  Use VOX for keying the radio.
 - Paul
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General discussion (QSO) / How do I hookup rig and computer to run PSK31 ?
« Last post by KB9CDM on July 13, 2013, 11:45:16 AM »
I have a HP Laptop G72-260US Notebook and I am wanting to know what am I going to need to run my PSK31 & RTTY with this computer. It does not have a serial port so I am going to have to have some sort of gaget to  hookup between Yaesu 857-D and computer. Anyone got the answer ?
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Antennas / Re: Double Bazooka antenna plans
« Last post by KE7TRP on July 12, 2013, 09:45:46 AM »
I agree Paul.  I enjoy working with antennas and plan to try a few different styles.  I just wish it was not july in Arizona.. Its to hot to even go outside, yet alone, work on an antenna.

C
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Antennas / Re: 40 and 80 meter wire dipoles... How far apart?
« Last post by KE7TRP on July 12, 2013, 09:44:08 AM »
I am familiar with Fan dipoles.  Around here they are called Maypole antennas.  That's a great option and one I might test some day. Two wires for 40 and two for 80.   I am not sure you can make a bazooka style antenna in this fashion.  I really need to test this out.   

Currently,  I have 600 ohm open wire line from either a KW matchbox or a HB tuner in the shack.  The 600 ohm line runs out of the shack and then through two large inductors to ground for static discharge.  Then, the open wire line runs up the tower to a fiberglass stand off that is 3 feet off tower.  The open line splits off to 130 ft of wire in an inverted V.

C
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Antennas / Re: 40 and 80 meter wire dipoles... How far apart?
« Last post by WD5JOY on July 12, 2013, 08:20:33 AM »
You didn't note or I do not see what you plan on using as feedline. EITHER METHOD YOU CHOOSE WHY NOT USE ONLY ONE FEEDLINE FOR BOTH ANTENNAS?  Attach at the apex of each and run the legs as far opposing each other as you can.  Saves the cost of another run of coax and the antennas take care of which length to use as you change bands; tune each individually as you would if there was only one antenna. I would tune the 40M then the 80M - but either should work since the close proximity to the earth will come into play.

If you use coax - you best use or at least consider using a 1:1 CURRENT balun at the apex. Then simply connect the 'legs; of each dipole to each side of the BALUN and RUN THE COAX straight down the tower to a point where it can "turn" and go to your shack. 

If using OPEN WIRE / LADDER LINE AS FEEDLINE (instead of coax) --- be sure to use "standoffs" to keep it away from the tower and other metal objects by one to two feet if possible.  As with the coax - run the feedline straight down the tower - turn at the appropriate place and run to the shack. NO BALUN at the FEEDPOINT - but rather use one just prior to ENTRY INTO THE SHACK where you would make the transition from LADDER LINE FEEDLINE to A SHORT RUN OF COAX TO THE RIG.

If you are 'gutsy' and have a tuner with a balun installed you could run the LADDER LINE through the wall, into the shack and put the CURRENT BALUN just before the first connection point at the tuner.  KEEP STRAY RF from wandering around the rig and accessories and biting the heck out if your lips and other tender parts. I'd keep the balun OUTSIDE the shack and run the shortest coax jumper as possible to the rig.

Do at least consider using ONLY ONE FEEDLINE --- no need for the second if the connection at the apex is the same. I run a 80M / 160M combo this way - using coax and it works great in spite of the 160 being WAY to close to the ground.  Your 80 will likely be a NVIS for the most part - but it will serve you well.

73 Don / WD5JOY
Old Senile Don - Today is a "good day"!
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Antennas / Re: Double Bazooka antenna plans
« Last post by W5LZ on July 12, 2013, 05:04:44 AM »
In general, meaning that there are a lot of variable in that sort of comparison, I think it'd probably work out about even.  Both are 1/2 wave antennas so the difference in 'performance' isn't going to be that different.
I don't mind using a tuner and have for a long time.  I'm not too 'fixed' on having a 'perfect' antenna system, I've found that one that isn't exactly 'perfect' will do just as well in some cases.  That tuner can also make an antenna 'usable' on other bands, sort of, you know?  Tuners aren't a 'cure-all' but they can make things easier...
 - Paul
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General discussion (QSO) / Re: Uh Oh Another New Guy
« Last post by K3DAV on July 11, 2013, 06:22:33 PM »
Glad to be here Clark, and thanks again for the invitation to join.

And your welcome for the DBZ info.  Always happy to help.  Anyone else wishing to check out my article on the Double Bazooka can  CLICK HERE
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General discussion (QSO) / Re: Uh Oh Another New Guy
« Last post by KE7TRP on July 11, 2013, 06:05:48 PM »
Hi  David.  Thanks for joining the forums.  I am sure everyone will really enjoy reading your website.  Thanks for the info on the DBZ!

C
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